Scanning with commando

[jonny_b]

Hello all.
Is there any way of scanning in commando v14 that will leave the channels as they are so that i can manually move the channels across from 'others' to the relevant bouquet.

I scan using the 'Leave current' option and it keeps messing up the Interactive bouquet leaving only 2 channels, instead of all the beeb and sly interactive channels that are there when you first flash the box.

[PaphosAL]

Hi, jonny_b and

Yes, I see what you mean. I ran a Scan earlier, using these settings:

Scan for - all services
Bouquet - Satellote bouquet

it returned similar disappointing results to what you got. We're in touch with LraiZer (whose services and bouquets we'll be using from C14.4 onwards) to find out why a Scan is missing all the BBCi and Sky Interactive services.

My feeling is, that LraiZer has extensively (and manually) customized the services and bouquets he provides us with in beta testing. But we'll see. Watch this space...

Cheers- AL

[jonny_b]

I suspect its something to do with data channels that need renaming in dreambox edit. Looks like i will have to manually edit the bouquets and inject the interactive channels back in the xml files.

Its a brilliant image like the old dbox2 dw2 and commando images.

Heres what i like:
1) fast zapping between channels, no need to go back and forth for the cccam to kick in.
2) using the up, down, left, right to navigate bouquets quickly.
3) ability to check whats on adjacent channels using the infobar without changing channels.
4) fast boot time
5) large font in the infobar unlike pli

Heres what i dont like
1) < and > are the wrong way round to adjust volume
2) long bouquets. Have 14 channels per page. So movies would be split into 2 with 'movies 1' containing all the sly movies and film4 and 'movies 2' containing all the other movie channels. Its quicker to navigate without having to go and all the way to the bottom.

Hopefully the next release will have the radio times epg built in.

[LraiZer]

Originally Posted by jonny_b

I suspect its something to do with data channels that need renaming in dreambox edit. Looks like i will have to manually edit the bouquets and inject the interactive channels back in the xml files.

Its a brilliant image like the old dbox2 dw2 and commando images.

Heres what i like:
1) fast zapping between channels, no need to go back and forth for the cccam to kick in.
2) using the up, down, left, right to navigate bouquets quickly.
3) ability to check whats on adjacent channels using the infobar without changing channels.
4) fast boot time
5) large font in the infobar unlike pli

Heres what i dont like
1) < and > are the wrong way round to adjust volume
2) long bouquets. Have 14 channels per page. So movies would be split into 2 with 'movies 1' containing all the sly movies and film4 and 'movies 2' containing all the other movie channels. Its quicker to navigate without having to go and all the way to the bottom.

Hopefully the next release will have the radio times epg built in.

some data channels that are viewable require their service type changing in services.xml from data types to tv types service_types="01" so that they show in the tv lists. new scans will revert all these data type channels back to data types in the services.xml and will require manual changes after a new scan.

you may want to try adding these data channels to a myservices.xml file in /zapit/ folder with an action command to keep these channels after new scans
Neutrino:Senderlisten - TuxboxWIKI
action="add"
action="replace"

satsearching added volume key swaping in the settings/keybinding menu. you also dont need to scoll all the way down long bouquets. you can use the volume keys to page UP and page DOWN long bouquets.

im sure RT epg will be enabled in next release in some form or another.

[PaphosAL]

LraiZer- One problem I can see with your service_type="01" renaming suggestion, is that if you check the services.xml I sent you from my scan yesterday, the Scan collected 25 service_type="04" services, but missed all the BBCi and Sky Interactives that you have in your Bouquets.

Did you add these in manually before making them all type="01" ??

Cheers- AL

ps: Yes, Radio Times EPG will be in Commando 14.4 - thanks to our resident genius! Beta testing has proven it to be gobsmackingly awesome...

[LraiZer]

Originally Posted by PaphosAL

LraiZer- One problem I can see with your service_type="01" renaming suggestion, is that if you check the services.xml I sent you from my scan yesterday, the Scan collected 25 service_type="04" services, but missed all the BBCi and Sky Interactives that you have in your Bouquets.

Did you add these in manually before making them all type="01" ??

Cheers- AL

ps: Yes, Radio Times EPG will be in Commando 14.4 - thanks to our resident genius! Beta testing has proven it to be gobsmackingly awesome...

all were edited manualy, you would need to add a myservices.xml to fix them after a new scan.

did you not see the bbci channels as service_type="82" in your newly scanned "all services" services.xml? just manualy convert them to tv type 1 and rename them.

  <transponder id="07f6" onid="0002" frequency="12441000" inversion="2" symbol_rate="27500000" fec_inner="2" polarization="1">
   <channel service_id="1ae0" name="STREAM-0" service_type="82"/>
   <channel service_id="1ae1" name="STREAM-1" service_type="82"/>
   <channel service_id="1ae2" name="STREAM-2" service_type="82"/>
   <channel service_id="1ae3" name="STREAM-3" service_type="82"/>
   <channel service_id="1ae4" name="STREAM-4" service_type="82"/>
   <channel service_id="1ae5" name="STREAM-5" service_type="82"/>
   <channel service_id="1ae6" name="STREAM-6" service_type="82"/>
  </transponder>

[renwich]

Is there some cleverer way to do this.

[LraiZer]

Originally Posted by renwich

Is there some cleverer way to do this.

drop this example myservices.xml into /zapit/ folder and set scan to "all services" and bouquets to "leave current". the bbci channels will remain as type82 in services.xml on new scan but will now not disappear from bouquets and remain as bbci 1 2 3 etc.. after a scan. the only cleverer way would be to add scan.end script that edits services.xml directly after a scan.

you will also need to add the sly sports active channels to myservices.xml as well as these bbci channels in the example myservices.xml file.

[PaphosAL]

Originally Posted by renwich

Is there some cleverer way to do this.

I agree with Renny. I was searching in NP++ for BBCi - so how the fook am I supposed to know that they call it "STREAM-1" etc etc?

Let's think back to how Cydine (god bless his cotton socks, LOL!) would have handled these anomalys in zapit?

It's very nice to have a LraiZer manually customiZed set of services and bouquets in the release image, but Sod's Law dictates that the very next day after release, major TSid / Sid changes will occur again, tempting the User into a ReScan, and bolloxing the whole setup...

Thoughts?

[LraiZer]

Originally Posted by PaphosAL

I agree with Renny. I was searching in NP++ for BBCi - so how the fook am I supposed to know that they call it "STREAM-1" etc etc?

Let's think back to how Cydine (god bless his cotton socks, LOL!) would have handled these anomalys in zapit?

It's very nice to have a LraiZer manually customiZed set of services and bouquets in the release image, but Sod's Law dictates that the very next day after release, major TSid / Sid changes will occur again, tempting the User into a ReScan, and bolloxing the whole setup...

Thoughts?

so do you think there needs to be a new revised bouquet, service, myservice set so that no manual edits are needed when used with "all services" and "leave current" on 28.2e scans? may be a good idea to have a default myservices.xml to make these invisible data channels viewable?

here is some more sport active channels added